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Old 01-22-2010, 10:09 AM
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Back in Oct 2009 we had a major provider in our area suddenly just close their doors, leaving many patients stranded. You may remember this being discussed in the e-mail version of HME Talk. Congressman Joe Sestak helped us by getting the Medicare policy changed concerning the 36 month oxygen cap and bankruptcy. However, we need a copy of the bankruptcy filing in order to bill for these patients. The company has not yet filed according to their attorneys. So we are spending a lot more money servicing these patients, who are mostly on liquid.
Anyone else having this problem?
Also, does anyone know how this policy affects patients who are say, at 30 months? No one wants to take them either, but my reading of the policy doesn't seem to include them.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:20 PM
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An update to this question- does anyone know if we bill for refills on a pt who is capped, does that preclude us from starting a new billing once we get the bankruptcy info? The provider whose pts we took on has still not filed, most of them are liquid pts, and we are losing a lot of money. And they are the most demanding customers on the planet to boot.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:12 PM
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Back in Oct 2009 we had a major provider in our area suddenly just close their doors, leaving many patients stranded. You may remember this being discussed in the e-mail version of HME Talk. Congressman Joe Sestak helped us by getting the Medicare policy changed concerning the 36 month oxygen cap and bankruptcy. However, we need a copy of the bankruptcy filing in order to bill for these patients. The company has not yet filed according to their attorneys. So we are spending a lot more money servicing these patients, who are mostly on liquid.
Anyone else having this problem?
Also, does anyone know how this policy affects patients who are say, at 30 months? No one wants to take them either, but my reading of the policy doesn't seem to include them.
If this company has not filed yet why is Medicare not forcing them to take care of these patients? That is their rule. That being said.....

Here is the policy and it does not address how many months on service so I believe there is no limit so you can start over with virtually all patients with a new cap:

Medicare Policy Regarding Replacement of Oxygen Equipment Lost as a Result of Supplier Bankruptcy

CMS has issued instructions to contractors regarding processing of claims for replacement oxygen equipment in situations in which the equipment is considered lost because a supplier files for Chapter 7 or 11 bankruptcy and is unable to continue furnishing oxygen and oxygen equipment.
The regulation at 42 CFR Section 414.210(f) provides that a patient may elect to obtain a new piece of equipment if the equipment has been in continuous use by the patient for the equipment's reasonable useful lifetime or has been lost, stolen or irreparably damaged.



Oxygen equipment is considered lost if the supplier of the equipment has declared bankruptcy:
  1. By filing a petition under Chapter 7 in a United States Bankruptcy Court; or
  2. By filing a petition for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in a United States Bankruptcy Court and the oxygen equipment was sold or scheduled to be sold.
Billing for Replacement Oxygen Equipment
Claims for replacement oxygen equipment due to Chapter 7 and 11 bankruptcy will be processed similar to other situations where oxygen equipment is deemed lost. A new 36-month rental period and new reasonable useful lifetime begins on the date that the replacement equipment is furnished by the new oxygen supplier. Similar to other situations where equipment is lost and new replacement oxygen equipment is provided, repeat blood gas testing is not required, but the new supplier must provide a new, initial Oxygen Certificate of Medical Necessity (CMN) with the first claim. The most recent qualifying value and test date should be entered on the CMN. The initial date provided on the CMN should be the date of delivery for the replacement oxygen equipment.
On the claim for the first month of use, the new oxygen supplier must include the HCPCS code for the new oxygen equipment, the RA HCPCS modifier and a narrative describing why the equipment was replaced along with the specific type of bankruptcy (i.e., Chapter 7 or 11). When submitting claims electronically, suppliers may use loop 2400 (line note), segment NTE02 (NTE01+ADD) of the ASC X12, version 4010A1 electronic claim format. Suppliers billing using the Form CMS-1500 paper claim may report the narrative information in Item 19 of the claim form. In addition, contractors shall instruct home health agencies billing using the UB-04 paper claim that they may report this information in Form Locator 80 (Remarks).
To document that the equipment was lost due to supplier bankruptcy, the new oxygen supplier must submit supporting documentation to the contractor for review.



For a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the supplier must submit:
  • Court records documenting that the previous supplier filed a petition for a Chapter 7 bankruptcy in a United States Bankruptcy Court,
For a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, the supplier must submit:
  • Court records documenting that the previous supplier filed a petition for a Chapter 11 bankruptcy in a United States Bankruptcy Court; and
  • Documents filed in the bankruptcy case confirming that the equipment was sold or is scheduled to be sold. These documents should include:
    • The Court order authorizing and/or approving the sale; or
    • Evidence that the sale is scheduled to occur or has occurred, e.g., a bill of sale, or an asset purchase agreement signed by the seller and the buyer; or
    • A Court order authorizing abandonment of the equipment.
Upon receipt of a claim for replacement of oxygen equipment lost due to bankruptcy, the contractor will request the supporting court documents from the supplier in order to evaluate whether the equipment can be considered lost. A new 36 month rental period and a new reasonable useful lifetime will not begin unless this documentation is made available to the contractor and, in the case of a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, the contractor is able to verify that the oxygen equipment that was being furnished to the beneficiary was one of the assets that was liquidated.
A Change Request (CR) and a MLN Matters Article will be forthcoming that will incorporate the information contained in this listserv message.
Posted on 11/11/09

As for the second part of your question as to whether you can bill for contents if they are capped, I have two takes on this.

The rules say any company can bill for contents in the month they provided these contents albeit only one company can bill per month. So you could bill for contents.

I would get something in writing from CMS first because if you bill for contents does this "burn the bridge" as far as the bankruptcy rules go because now you are the provider on record. My instincts say you can bill and then use the bankruptcy clause to replace the equipment and start a new cap as the rule says the company who billed the 36th month is the one on the hook. But I DO NOT trust Medicare so get this in writing or I would not bill the contents.
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:00 AM
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We are not having any luck contacting the former provider's lawyer, and I hear that he is having IRS problems, so I think he's in hiding. Good luck getting him to take care of his former patients.
As far as not trusting Medicare, that's why I asked this question, because I don't want to ruin our chances of starting a new rental.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:36 AM
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I'm wondering if anyone has taken on any of these types of patients, becasue I am also wondering if we have to bill to the 36th month, and then try to bill with bankruptcy info, or can we do it right away if someone is in say their 30th month. Anyone have experience with this?
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